Sony a7S II ILCE7SM2/B 12.2 MP E-mount Camera with Full-Frame Sensor, Black
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The α7S II has evolved in both Stills and Movies adding internal 4K video recording, 5-axis image stabilization and High-speed AF with enhanced accuracy - while maintaining its legendary low-light/ low noise capability for extraordinary high sensitivity of up to ISO 409,6002. Additional updates include; S-Gamut. Cine/S-Log Picture Profiles and 120P Full HD 1920x1080 high-frame rate video for 5x slow motion. An evolution of a low-light legend is here!
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988 of 1040 people found the following review helpful.
Great Camera Overshadowed By Awful Sony Service
By Phil Peterson
As a professional documentary, corporate, portrait, industrial/manufacturing and sports photographer for nearly a decade, I depend on my camera equipment as a tool to make images for my clients. When my equipment needs adjusting or repairs, I depend on the manufacturer to stand behind their products and give good customer service. I've been a Canon user since my first digital camera and Canon has always stood behind their product, giving good customer service. In January 2015, I purchased a Sony a7S to use in low light situations, as a 3rd body and as a fun camera to always have with me. In my experience, I believe there is so much going for the a7S and the whole a7 series of cameras however, there is one devastating fatal flaw.
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
As all the camera reviews state, the low light performance of the a7S is incredible. It's 2+ stops better than my Canon 5D3. Files up to ISO 25,800 are very usable with comparatively minimal noise reduction. Sony has managed to make a camera with all the advantages of a full frame sensor in a small, lightweight size. The camera's sensor, processor and software create beautiful image files. At first I had reservations about the electronic viewfinder but after using the camera for a few days, I found it to be bright and accurate which was great because I prefer to hold the camera to my eye rather than use the LCD back. The silent shooting mode is very nice, especially for use on movie sets although, under many indoor lighting situations, severe banding occurs. The whole a7 series is designed to use lens adapters (I use one from Fotodiox) so photographers can enjoy a wide variety of current and vintage non-Sony lenses. My colleagues use Leica, Contax, Zeiss and other premium manual focus lenses. I've chosen to use old Nikkor lenses I had on hand from my 35mm film days and Sony's focus peaking helps to show what is and what isn't in focus.
For several months, I thought that my little a7S was close to being the ultimate camera and was seriously considering getting an a7R...that is, until I needed to have my camera serviced.
On June 21, 2015, it was 85 degrees outdoors with high humidity...a fairly typical summer day in the Midwest. I was photographing a Converse One Star World Tour Demo event at a local skatepark. There wasn't a breeze and it felt much hotter on the concrete. Like everyone else, I was sweating and happened to sweat a little on my a7S. After a while, the electronic viewfinder stopped working properly. The image was dim with static and occasionally, a pink line would cycle through. Because I was using manual focus lenses and it was bright out, I needed to see through the viewfinder so when it quit working properly, my day of shooting was over.
When I got home, I put the camera in a ziplock bag with silica gel pack. The camera worked fine for a while but when introduced into humid environments like abandoned buildings while urban exploring or just an average summer day, the camera would act up again. Eventually, the viewfinder worked consistently but the issue moved to the shutter speed. It would get stuck on a narrow range of speeds...usually it was somewhere between 1/800 - 1/1600. Because I came to rely on this camera, I found a workaround by adjusting the ISO up or down depending on the level of light.
In October, I shot a corporate national conference and all the meetings and events were indoors. With the shutter stuck at a fast speed, a high ISO was required and that meant more noise in the images. It was time to send the body in for repairs.
"We have been in business for 58 years and it is our goal to make your service experience a positive one." - From Precision Camera's Oct. 28 confirmation email
I found out the hard way that there's a huge difference between Canon's factory service department and Sony's contracted service company, Precision Camera.
Sony's website indicates that Precision Camera was Sony's official repair company. I thought it was weird that Sony didn't have their own service department like Canon and Nikon. I filled out the required online form explaining the issues with my camera, gave them my credit card number which authorized them to charge $384.45 for services and expected to get my camera back repaired, cleaned and ready to use, just like my experience had been with Canon.
Precision received my camera on October 28. Twelve days later, I see that my camera has been flagged so I called to find out what was going on. After two conversations with low level people who answer the phones, I was finally able to speak with Mia, a manager on Nov. 11.
She said that the service department saw "internal corrosion" and that they were not going to fix the camera. She did not know how much "internal corrosion" there was, nor did she know where it was. She asked if the camera was ever in the rain or had water splashed on it. I was up front when I told her about shooting with the camera up to my eye on a hot humid day and I sweated on it a little. She continued to refuse to authorize repairs and said my only recourse was to talk to Sony.
While Precision's customer service and repair was lacking, the speed at which they returned my camera was impressive. It was at my front door on Nov. 12.
- Nov. 18 11:54 CST - I called Sony's customer service number, 888-222-7669, and spoke with Larry. After I explained my situation, he said he'd "escalate the customer service request" and "someone should call in 24 - 48 hours".
- Nov. 20 4:11 CST - After not hearing back within Sony's timeframe, I called and spoke with Mark. After explaining my situation which he said he could see on his screen, he set said he'd set my request to "high priority" but that I "should have already heard back". I received a call from an odd number...102-796-3360. I answered but there was no one there. A minute later, it happened again with no one on the other end. I looked up area code 102 and it wasn't listed as coming from the US. Soon after, I received an email from Marge whose title was "Sony National Customer Relations" saying that she'd tried to contact me and assigned my case a number. I quickly returned her email but to date, haven't received a reply.
- Nov. 20 5:45 CST - I called the Sony service number again, hoping to speak with Marge and got Larry who I spoke with two days earlier. What are the chances I'd call a huge international company like Sony and the same person would answer the phone? He said that Sony would not repair the camera. After I insisted on talking to a manager, he put in that request and said one would call me within 24 hours.
- Nov. 23 3:01 CST - After not hearing back within Sony's timeframe again, I called the service number and talked to Alex. He said that on Nov. 22, Sony had emailed Precision to request a diagnosis of the service needed to fix the camera and quote on the repair. He read the email which said that Precision had replied to their request and determined it "would cost too much to repair", even though there was not an actual amount quoted. I also asked about the 102 area code. He said that "customer relations uses internet phone lines" so that may be why the area code isn't listed as being from the US.
- Nov. 23 3:08 CST - I received a call from Molly soon after my call with Alex was completed. She identified herself as being with "customer relations". If my previous calls weren't with people in the customer relations department, who were those people? She repeated what Alex had told me, that Precision determined it was too expensive to fix my camera. The strange thing is that to my knowledge, Precision never gave me a quote to repair the camera. Further, Precision said they wouldn't fix the camera, not that they couldn't...big difference. Molly apologized multiple times and said that Sony would not repair my camera because it would "cost too much" and that "it was out of warranty". Since when does "out of warranty" mean a company should stop servicing their products leaving their customers stuck with expensive equipment that doesn't work? I've sent two generations old camera bodies and lenses back to Canon for their factory service with no issues. My friends who use Nikon have had the same experience with Nikon factory service. Sony and their contracted service provider, Precision's refusal to service equipment out of warranty falls well short of general industry wide customer service practices. I requested that Molly transfer me to her manager but she said that there was no one higher in the company I could talk to. Was she the CEO or a board member? Doubtful because she seemed to be reading off a script...when the customer says X, reply Y and try to move on to the next call. This scheme is common with companies who contract their customer service to other companies (usually in other countries), hoping their customer complaints go away instead of providing customer service.
I had run into a solid customer service brick wall and she needed to get her call quota in for the day.
The call lasted 17 minutes 51 seconds before Molly shockingly hung up on me.
(Hopefully Not) The End
Even though the a7S is advertised as professional grade, whatever weather resistance the camera has, it isn't adequate. Over the years, I've used my Canon 1D3, 1D4, 5D, 5D2 and 5D3 bodies in some of the most extreme conditions. From ambient temperatures of over 110 degrees to downpours to blizzards to being exposed to severe helicopter vibrations in a warzone, my Canons have held up very well. When there is an issue, Canon has stood behind their products with good customer service. In contrast with my first experience with Sony, the company falls well short.
Sony has created a potentially great line of cameras that could change the entire industry. However, Sony/Precision's customer service is so completely inadequate, it's their Achilles heel and the fatal flaw in the a7 line of cameras. Sony has put itself at the mercy of Precision, a contracted service company who is clearly more concerned with lowering service costs than providing good customer service. Does this mean that Sony has surrendered customer retention in favor of just trying to get a constant stream of new customers?
Does the a7S II have better weather resistance? Sony's website doesn't say so.
I believe that Sony is capable of doing much better and I hope they prove me right.
But in the mean time, the a7S is a great camera while it works but an expensive paperweight because of poor to non-existent service from Sony/Precision when it doesn't.
UPDATE - January 2, 2016
After sharing my Sony/Precision service experience in multiple places online on November 30, Cyber Monday, I received a phone call from Johnny Pham, a Sony service employee. While I suspected that the people working at the Sony service switchboard were contracted workers, it was good to finally speak to someone who actually worked at Sony.
Johnny apologized for the issues I was having with my camera and getting it repaired through Precision Camera. We had a great conversation about industry standard service as set by Canon and Nikon. We talked about how if Sony wanted to compete in the professional photography market with their Alpha series cameras, they would need to provide great service to their professional customers who use their cameras in conditions other than birthday parties, Bar Mitzvahs and family photos. He indicated that Sony was making an effort to do that. He asked that if Sony provided good service, if I would take down my poor reviews and when I questioned that, he quickly backtracked and asked if I would update them. I agreed to do that.
He emailed a shipping label to send the camera back in on December 1. Precision took a second look at it and Sony/Precision AGAIN said that they wouldn't repair it.
After waiting for my camera to be sent back, I called Johnny and asked when I was going to get my camera back. He said he didn't realize that Precision was still hanging on to it and he will have it shipped to my home. He offered to sell me another A7S for 30% off retail. He quickly jumped to 40% off and now currently, the offer is at 50% off retail price.
I just wanted my camera repaired, not negotiate back and forth like I was at a used car lot.
On December 14, I finally received my A7S. When I opened the package and tested the camera, I was shocked and extremely disappointed when it flashed: Camera Error. Turn power off then on. It flashed the message when the camera was both on and off. The only way to stop it was to take the batteries out. There were no other functions working.
After all the phone calls, emails and twice sending my A7S to Precision Camera, my camera went from partially working to completely bricked and unusable while in Precision's possession!
I contacted Johnny immediately and he sent another shipping label later that day. I sent the camera in for a third time and shockingly, Sony refused to repair it AGAIN!
Sony's position is that electronic equipment will fail sooner or later.
So after Precision "looked" at my A7S two times, it went from partially working to completely bricked...after looking at it a third time, Sony determined that this is a completely normal situation and was not going to repair or replace it.
THIS IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
It seems like Sony is stuck in a mindset where they expect the customer to replace a broken camera rather than repair it. My professional peers and colleagues don't do that. As expensive as pro equipment is, I doubt that's the prevailing practice anywhere. Further, the weather sealing in the A7S is weak or non-existent. This design flaw is the basis of my camera problems. Sony and Precision, they refuse to acknowledge that and Sony doesn't advertise the new models of Alphas with better weather sealing so I can only assume the same issue exists.
Based on my experience, professional and semi-professional photographers should stay away from Sony cameras because their service is awful. Amateurs, if you absolutely have to buy a Sony camera, get a cheap model because it will be less expensive to replace. Better yet, get a Canon or Nikon because unlike Sony, they stand behind their products.
Sony, I know you read these reviews. Do the right thing and replace my camera which completely quit working while in the possession of Precision Camera, your contracted service company.
207 of 222 people found the following review helpful.
A7SII died from internal corrosion due to humidity... not covered by warranty.
I used this camera in Florida in semi-humid conditions. It was a three-day shoot and at the end of the first day, the LCD and Viewfinder went black. The camera was still sending the clean signal through the HDMI but there was no way to change settings. I got back from my shoot and contacted Sony. Long story short is that the camera was returned from Sony's repair place saying that it was "Beyond Economical Repair" because there was internal corrosion. The camera was never exposed directly to liquid and all I can think is that it was the humidity.
Bottom line is that Sony is not honoring the warranty due to the corrosion. So, after only owning the camera for a few months, I now have a brick on my hands. Because the only thing I did was use it in normal conditions, I'm totally bummed and disappointed in Sony.
I'm guessing that at least my camera had some problem with weatherproofing, but after a little googling, I found others with my same problem. So, I would be careful with this camera as it is susceptible to moisture.
83 of 89 people found the following review helpful.
A great lowlight camera with some baffling quirks
As a former owner of the Sony A7S I wasn't quite sure if this camera was worth upgrading to as it does have the exact same sensor. However after biting the bullet and going for it, I can say without hesitation this camera is a worthy successor.
First the pros, which I'm stating in relation to the A7S.
-Internal 4k recording. A feature sorely lacking from the original, this is a welcome addition. Several people say 4k isn't necessary. Several people are wrong. The ability to crop your videos as you see fit is reason enough to go with 4k. 4k downscaled to 1080 p also looks much sharper than native 1080p. You really can't go wrong with 4k and having it in body is awesome. I've had no over heating issues either, as seems to be the case with the a7rii.
-High Iso. It does indeed do better with noise in low light than the already stellar A7S. It seems to be about 1 stop better in this area.
-14 bit raw. I really enjoy taking photos with this camera far better now as I wasn't to fond of compression Sony used on the photos in the first model. With 14 bit raw as an option I don't need to worry about that compression any longer.
-Battery life. As somebody who does video professionally, things like battery life make a world of difference in terms of usability. While this camera does have terrible battery life ( about 60 minutes), its still better than what I would get the a7s (around 40 minutes).
-in body stabilization. Remarkable feature, that really helps your videos if your standing still. It can be a bit jerky if you move around, but I'm assuming this is just me getting used to this feature. Very happy with it. It helps tremendously taking photos in low light, as you are now able to keep the shutter speed reasonably low and still get good sharp images.
-slog 3. I liked slog 2 alright, but I love slog 3. This is the superior log. So much latitude to grade, and I'm finding it to be much more enjoyable to color correct than I did the slog2 profile. Blown out skies are a thing of the past! (with the correct exposure of course).
-autofocus. Its still worse than most cameras on the market, but its certainly better than the shot ruining autofocus of the first version. I like to use the DJI Ronin stabilizer and so autofocus is vital to me. I cant count how many times the a7s couldn't keep up with a subject simply walking forward. This camera does a much better job tracking subjects, although still far from perfect.
-customizable button mapping. This camera gets a lot of flak for the placement of the record button, however you can simply remap the record button to a better location, which is an option we did not get with the original a7s.
And now my biggest con. 8 bit. Sony claims the body is to small for 10 bit, however I can't seem to figure out why not just make the body a bit bigger. It's already slightly bigger than the a7s due to the 5 axis stabilization, and at the $3,000 price point, I don't think any professional would mind a slightly larger frame if it included 10 bit 422. With its low light capabilities and 14 stops of dynamic range, this is really the last thing its missing, and for the life of me I cant figure out why Sony left it out. They are so close to having the best camera on the market with this product, but Id say on a well lit day, my gh4 still gets the better overall image. Come on Sony, give us 10 bit 4:22 and end this battle !
Update; The menu buttons in relation to hdmi output are mapped incorrectly. I use the Atomos Shogun with this camera and learned this lesson the hard way. if you aren't using an external monitor the menu system seems to work fine. However, if you are using an external monitor, the buttons don't correlate with the action they do, which can really screw you over. I wanted to record 1080 p 24 fps for a wedding ceremony. if you select 1080 p 24 fps from the hdmi menu, it will output 1080 p 60 fps. After fiddling around with it for some time I found the solution was to select 1080i as the resolution setting. Selecting 1080i allows you to inexplicably record at 1080p 24 fps. if you select the option to record to both the external monitor and to the memory card in the camera, it will switch to recording whatever is being displayed on the a7s ii monitor (audio levels, iso, ect.) and only record to the monitor. I still haven't stumbled on the button that actually records both. I'm worried pressing the wrong button might result in launching a missile and starting world war 3. That's how incorrectly mapped this all is.